Sam has left a new comment on your post "#010 WHERE IS THE SAFETY FOR FISH AND GOATS?":
To know the quality of the tree, look at its fruits. The world shaker of their times, Swami Vivekananda would not have been possible without the Ramakrishna you all mock about. Today, the world acknowledges that you are even equal to human being is because of the efforts of those great souls.
Therefore, instead of taking a narrow view on anything ( although I am very sure that your knowledge is limited by your ego deluded by your restless senses), I suggest you analyse the nature of seeds that bring forth fruits like yourself in this beautiful planet.
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Well, I respect your views. At the same time, I shall present my views.
What did, or whom did Swami Vivekananda shake? Could you kindly read my blog Click.
Your world-shaker was scanning and touring USA (second trip 1899), in search of homoeopaths, magnetic healers, etc. who could ameliorate the red patches which appeared on his chest, who could find a solution for his gas-filled stomach. He was begging aristocratic wealthy American women to mobilise subscriptions of per head $100, for his personal maintenance. He was lamenting that Americans came last in paying for what they heard in his lectures.
Indians had, have existed as human beings since thousands of years, before the birth and death of Ramakrishna and Vivekananda, and after the birth and death of Ramakrishna and Vivekananda. Indians lost their freedom for a thousand years, only because they were divided on caste lines, because their kings, priests and Seths wallowed in gold and precious stones, ignoring the coolies and peasants.
You say "To know the quality of the tree look at its fruits". You may not accept, but please see, what is the quality of the fruits of Vivekananda's work? More ochre-robed preachers went on a prowl of Europe and America selling spirituality and yoga, taking Vivekananda as trend-setter. Apart from the activities and influence of others, Mr. Vivekananda's preachings also spread seeds of religious bigotry and fanaticism in the 20th Century India. Funniest thing, is RSS started using him as Hindu icon, building a posh memorial for him at Kanyakumari, without even knowing that Swamiji supported beef eating.
It is like this: We venerate Sage VasishTha for his great voluminous precept of Yoga VASiShTha of nearly 40,000 verses, does not mean that we should not wonder about his beef eating in Valmiki Ashram (Pl. Read 3rd intermission of the play Uttara Rama Charitra of Bhavbhuti, the verses of which I placed in my Ramayana blog Click .
It may not be true to say that I am mocking at Ramakrishna and Vivekananda. I have great respect for them. It does not mean that we should not study what they preached and practised.
You wrote: "I suggest you analyse the nature of seeds that bring forth fruits like yourself in this beautiful planet." My reply: What brought forth fruits like me in this beautiful planet? Keen sense of observation which I learnt from study of the life and works of Swami Dayananda Saraswati. What I learnt from him, is a deep explorative mind.
