Thursday, February 21, 2008

#010 WHERE IS THE SAFETY FOR FISH AND GOATS?

Shri Ramakrishna took vows of his monkhood at Dakshineswar, from Shri Totapuri in 1864. Full details, you can in the Gospel of Shri Ramakrishna, the chapter of Introduction.

"... The sacred thread and the tuft of hair were consigned to the fire, completing his severance from caste, sex, and society. Last of all he burnt in that fire, with all that is holy as his witness, his desire for enjoyment here and hereafter. He uttered the sacred mantras giving assurance of safety and fearlessness to all beings, who were only manifestations of his own Self. The rites completed, the disciple received from the guru the loin-cloth and ochre robe, the emblems of his new life. ..."


Having uttered these sacred mantras of assurance of safety and fearlessness to all beings, how Ramakrishna dealt with meat in his later days?

The answer for this we can see in the Gospel of Shri Ramakrishna, Volume I, celebration of his birthday in 1883:

ADHAR (to the Master): "Sir, I have a question to ask. Is it good to sacrifice animals before the Deity? It certainly involves killing."

MASTER: "The sastra prescribes sacrifice on special occasions. Such sacrifice is not harmful. Take, for instance, the sacrifice of a goat on the eighth day of the full or new moon.

"I am now in such a state of mind that I cannot watch a sacrifice. Also I cannot eat meat offered to the Divine Mother. Therefore I first touch my finger to it, then to my head, lest She should be angry with me.

"Again, in a certain state of mind I see God in all beings, even in an ant. At that time, if I see a living being die, I find consolation in the thought that it is the death of the body, the soul being beyond life and death.

"One should not reason too much; it is enough if one loves the Lotus Feet of the Mother. Too much reasoning throws the mind into confusion. You get clear water if you drink from the surface of a pool. Put your hand deeper and stir the water, and it becomes muddy. Therefore pray to God for devotion.


BLOGGER'S VIEW
1. We can see the superstitiousness of Shri Ramakrishna! He was afraid that Divine Mother would be angry with him. His Guru (who gave him Sanyasa) taught him that Saguna worship (Worship of Gods with form) was foolish. Totapuri did not believe in a personal God! The disciple not only believes a personal Goddess but also fears that she would be angry if he does not touch meat!

2. Shri Ramakrishna does not want devotees and disciples to reason deeply. May be Shri Ramakrishna was afraid that if a disciple reasons deeply he would find the truth and does not respect his Gurus who were superstitious!

3. There are claims that Ramakrishna had frequent conversations with the Divine Mother. He could have ascertained from her whether she would be angry if he refused to touch meat. He could have also enquired from her whether she had created the Sastras(Scriptures) which stipulated that a goat should be sacrificed on every lunar day.

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

~::~ Namaste! ~::~ I Must say That You Are Being Far Too Careful In Revealing The Disturbing Truth About Ramakrishna! Why Are You Avoiding Telling About The Horrendous Vamachara Left~Hand Path That Ramakrishna Followed? As A Priest Of Kali, Ramakrishna Constantly Sacrificed Many Kinds Of Sweet INNOCENT Animals In His Diabolical Demonic Rakshasa Left~Hand Path Which Was His Life~Long Favorite Choosen Path. In His Left~Hand Path Sadhana Ramakrishna Also Ate Rotting Human Flesh And Every Type Of Meat. Ramakrishna Ate Filthy Human Dung Feces. Ramakrishna Sat On Dead Bodies Corpses And Invoked Ghosts Into The Corpses While Shoving Bloody Flesh And Alcohol Down The Corpses Throat. Ramakrishna Engaged In Sexual Rituals With Naked Women And He Had Naked Women Sit On His Lap Caressing Him While He Tried To Do Japa. Ramakrishna Practiced Doing Oral Sex Upon Lotus Blossoms, Imagining That The Lotus Was A Female Vagina. Ramakrisha Played With His Penis, Saying That He Would "Tease Liquid Pearls From His Penis." ~~~ With ALL Of These Evil And Diabolical Practices Of Ramakrishna ~ The Worst By Far Was His Constant SLAUGHTERING Of Precious Divine Sweet Animals ~ To A Man~Made Gory Demonic Statue of Kali. Once A Murti~Statue Is Givien A Blood Sacrifice ~ The Murti Is Forever Changed Into A Statue Of A Demonic Type ~ Filled With Demons. ALL Of The Sweet Animals KNEW What Was Going To Happen To Them, Crying And Watching The Other Animals Being SLAUGHTERED As They Were Forced To Stand In Line Waiting Their Bloody Cruel Murderous Fate. ~~~ NO GOD OR GODDESS WANTS ANIMAL SACRIFICE! ~~~ Perverse Diabolical Rakshasa Humans Crave The Taste Of Cruel Meat ~ That Is Why This Evil Is Done! This Murderous Karma Will Certainly Come Back And Murder The Murderers And Anyone Who Participates Or Condones This Evil Will Also Reap The The same Torture And Murderous Fate Done To Them That The Sweet INNOCENT Animals Had Done To Them By Demonic Humans. *** NONE OF THE ABOVE PRACTICES HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH GOD~REALIZATION ~ IN FACT THEY LEAD ONLY TO THE MOST HORRID HELLISH REALMS! *** The Ramakrishna Order Is Still Doing Constant Animal Sacrifice For A Monetary Profit For Ignorant Greedy Deluded People And On Days Special To Bloody Kali. The Foremost Virtue In Hinduism ~ And The Yamas And Niyamas Of Hinduism Is *AHIMSA* Loving~Kindness Towards ALL Animals ~Creatures ~Beings LIFE! *** How Is It Possible That People Are So *BRAINWASHED* Into Following And Admiring Ramakrishna? Vivekananda Also Loved Doing Animal Sacrifice And He Ate Every Kind Of Meat, Including Beef! Vivekananda Loved Drinking Alcohol And Arrogantly Smoking Huge Cigars. Swami Vivekananda Said That The Type Of Persons He Admires Most Are The Ones Who Would Eat A Whole COW! Vivekananda Would Scold Anyone Who Did Not Offer His Flesh, Alcohol And Huge Cigars. Most ALL Of The Ramakrishna Order Swamis Eat Every Type Of Meat And Recommend It To The Devotees. Some Even Hunt And Shoot Animals. The Ramakrishna Order Renounced Hinduism In The India High Court In 1980. ~::~ So Please, I Request That You Truly REVEAL The TRUTHS About The Corrupt Ramakrishna ~ Vivekananda ~ And The Ramakrishna Order! ~::~

~::~ Shivani Sannyasini ~::~

Shivani_Sannyasini@yahoo.com

Anonymous said...

~::~ Using GOOGLE ~~~ Do A SEARCH On These Phrases: *Ramakrishna Ate Human Flesh* *Ramakrishna Left Hand Path* * Ramakrishna Vamachara*
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~::~ Shivani Sannyasini ~::~

Shivani_Sannyasini@yahoo.com

Anonymous said...

~::~ Ramakrishna Also Remained ILLITERATE His Entire Life. He Could Not Even Read Nor Write His Own Name! Ramakrishna Never Read Any Hindu Holy Book ~ His Brother Was A Sanskrit Scholar And Offered To Teach Ramakrishna. Ramakrishna Refused! Ramakrishna Did Not Care Enough About Hinduism And Its Holy Texts To Even Learn How To Read Them. Ramakrishna Knew Nothing Of The Vedas And The Upanishads! Ramakrishna Had An Ignorant Learning Disability. Ramakrishna Was Prone To Fits Of Hysterical Emotions And Acts ~ Just Like In Voo~Doo And Santeria When They Do Bloody Animal Sacrifices They Get Into A Strange Type Of Hysterical Low Ecstacy Of Possession By Low Spirits Which Remains With Them Always. Ramakrishna Also Preformed Bloody Animal Sacrifices, Worshipped A Rakshasa Demonic Kali With Blood And INNOCENT Animals Ramakrishna Slaughtered For A Kali Statue. Ramakrishna Was Ignorant And Hysterical ~ He Would Do Anything Certain Persons Told Him To Do. Ramakrishna Cut The Throat Of Countless INNOCENT Sweet Animals And He Constantly Smoked ~ He Died Of Throat Cancer Due To His Horrendously Cruel Evil Karmas. Ramakrishna Warned Devotees Never To Pray To God For Healing And Help When They Are Sick Or Need Help. The Ramakrishna Order Says The Same Thing. Their Words Go Against The Vedas ~ A HUGE Portion Of The Vedas Are Prayers And Slokas Of Prayers For Healing And Protection And A Life Filled With Vitality And Sattvic Abundance. {Not Greedy Materialism.} Ramakrishna And The Ramakrishna Order Are Filled With A Mean Darkness. Ramakrishna Certainly Is NOT AN AVATAR As He Is Marketed By The Ramakrishna Order! Diksha Mantras Given By Ramakrishna Gurus With Ramakrishna's Name In The Mantra Will Bring Only Pain And Disease Upon The One Given It. It Is Forbidden To Give The Name Of A Person Who Died Of A Disease As A Mantra. Many Ramakrishna Swamis And Devotees Have Also Died Of Throat Cancer After Receiving Such A Mantra. The Mantra Gives You What The Person/Being In The Mantra Name Had. If They Had A Disease ~ That Disease Is Invoked Within The Person Repeating The Mantra Of That Name. ~::~


~::~ Shivani Sannyasini ~::~


Shivani_Sannyasini@yahoo.com

Anonymous said...

May Sri Ramakrishna, Holy Mother and Swami Vivekananda give you the right understanding...you have misinterpreted many meanings...this message is for shivani sanyasini: dear sister, please do think before you label people falsely...may the lord bless you...all that you have mentioned are lies...each one of them...truthful seekers of truth know what to believe and what not...sri ramakrishna did practice tantra as one of his paths but he DID NOT practice vamachara tantra...he strictly condemned it...read complete works of swami vivekananda or any other trusted book...dont just believe any random source....like if i write that you are my friend on the internet, that does not become true, right?...as far as the ramakrishna order is concerned, they are the most selfless, pure people you will come across...i pray to holy mother, sri ramakrishna and swamiji that they may reveal the truth to you and shower one and all with blessings....may truth prevail!.....a sister

Anonymous said...

may ramakrishna thakur and lord shiva give u some intellect and a healthy mind to know and understand god properly....

Anonymous said...

May God give you good vision and heart to think in a right way. Ramakrushna was a Person with tremendous inner power. and a realized soul.

Sam said...

To know the quality of the tree, look at its fruits. The world shaker of their times, Swami Vivekananda would not have been possible without the Ramakrishna you all mock about. Today, the world acknowledges that you are even equal to human being is because of the efforts of those great souls.

Therefore, instead of taking a narrow view on anything ( although I am very sure that your knowledge is limited by your ego deluded by your restless senses), I suggest you analyse the nature of seeds that bring forth fruits like yourself in this beautiful planet.

Anonymous said...

But the question is how could the universal mother asks for sacrifice of innocent animals. A true devotee must sacrifice his own body and blood

Unknown said...

Little knowledge is a dangerous thing which happened with you my sister